On 9/6/05, Henry Towsner <henryt@...> wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 12:59 -0700, US National Coordinator wrote:
> > He was instructed to process the application as a notification, not an
> > approval. The application is still pending. I would say that qualifies
> > as a failure to handle it as a notification (which should not require
> > much time for deliberation).
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> But it never reached him, so he never had the chance to process. =
And
> if the fact that the application is still pending is evidence then Dale,
> Jon, and David, who have all had jurisdiction over it for months, are
> much more responsible than Jason, who only had a few weeks.
Like I explained elsewhere, that's a defense that just doesn't hold
any weight with me no matter how hard you argue procedures and
semantics. If Jason didn't have any influence over Dale, or maybe had
he tried to exercise that influence and failed, then it would be more
convincing.
> > Refusing to implement a decision by a supervising ST means that the ST
> > chain is free to find someone else to hold your position who can
> > follow policy.
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> But Jason never refused to implement a decision.
You moved into generalities and away from this specific case, and my
comments above are general comments as a result, not comments on this
specific case. I already indicated elsewhere why I didn't feel that
Jason was being cooperative with the MST.
> > Again, no, I didn't say that. Jason is culpable for the unrelated
> > reasons I stated before. Dale's actions in this case don't change
> > Jason's culpability one way or the other.
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> When asked to clarify how Jason failed to follow instructions, yo=
u
> stated that, "If I were a VST, and I saw my boss making comments like
> that on the application, I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole until
> the situation got resolved one way or the other..."
This is incorrect. When you asked me to clarify how Jason failed to
follow instructions, I said:
"He was instructed to process the application as a notification, not an
approval. The application is still pending. I would say that qualifies
as a failure to handle it as a notification (which should not require
much time for deliberation)."
I am trying very hard to be reasonable and cooperative here, but I
must insist that you stop mischaracterizing my statements. It's making
it very difficult to hold a coherent conversation, and it's
increasingly difficult to respond to your questions as you respond
more and more to what I didn't actually say.
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Wes Contreras, US2002022038
US National Coordinator
cam.usnc@...
http://www.camarilla.us/