Anthony,
<shakes head> If that is your belief, so be it. I'm not here to challenge
anyone's belief structure. However please doen't expect everyone to agree
that what you say is fact just because you say it. Allowing a domain to
elect who they want especially when the one they wish to elect has not
violated any rules in the handbook is not making a special case. It's
called doing your job. It comes down to very basic things. Jason violated
no rule in the handbook. You can't use the handbook to further attack him
for what was done by someone outside the boundries of the book. Unless you
working on finding and excuse to punish a Domain that dared take the high
road during all of this mess.
Its rather sad the number of people these days who are willing to roll over
just because the powers that be tell them to. I'm here to play a game.
Not stroke someone's ego. This entire incident has been in violation of
the Code of Conduct and the Membership Handbook. It could even be argued
that it was in violation for US law. To support it in any way says volumes
about the person supporting it. I don't care if Jon has done all sorts of
wonderful things in the past. History is repleat with those who have done
wonderful things all their lives and yet when push came to shove, made the
wrong decision. This is one of those cases. If he enforces this, he will
be putting himself with the MST on this. And considering this only came
out after a number of us in the Domain were willing to let our Domain slip
into black status for a month so we could put Jason back in the spot he has
earned it points to one of two things. Either he is going to force us to
submit to being slaves of the Camarilla or he is going to use it as an
excuse to disband the Domain. Those are the only two reasons for doing
this based on the facts of _this_ case.
Or are you insulting Jon and calling him nothing but a robot who only does
things per his programing and never on the facts of an incident?
Michael Shaffer
US2003082207
> [Original Message]
> From: Anthony C. [name redacted at Anthonys request] <daslurpee@...>
> To: <steelshadows@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 8/27/2005 6:33:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [steelshadows] two things
>
> Michael-
>
> The RST is not admitting he has it in for Pittsburgh. On the contrary,
those
> who have actually bothered to talk to him in a civilized and non-offensive
> manner have discovered that these policies have been his modus operandi
> since he took office. For him to break these standards would be for
> Pittsburgh to be a special case. Again.
>
> Your uninformed attack on Jon's office is inflammatory. Your belief in an
Us
> vs. Them confrontation is extremely contending. Before you continue to
> attack Jon, I recommend you educate yourself on his policies and decisions
> in cases prior to ours.
>
> Anthony C. [name redacted at Anthonys request]
> US2003021263
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Shaffer" <pelantan@...>
> To: <steelshadows@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [steelshadows] two things
>
>
> > Anthony,
> >
> > This list is for information and facts which I stated. Nothing bitter
> > about it. Nothing inflamitory. Just a recitation. If that bothers
you,
> > perhaps you should find a list where truth is not spoken. If you read
> > anger in my e-mails, then perhaps you should talk with someone for there
> > was none. <smile> Ignoring the wall doesn't make it not there. The
same
> > for the expressed attitude of those who have seized power. There can be
> no
> > other infrence obtained from the RST's actions and words then he is
trying
> > to attack the Pittsburgh domain in the only way he can. He isn't
helping
> > the situation, he is adding fuel to the fire. There is no way this can
be
> > taken any other way and keep your eyes open at the same time. <smile>
> >
> > Michael Shaffer
> > US2003082207
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Anthony C. [name redacted at Anthonys request] <daslurpee@...>
> > > To: <steelshadows@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: 8/26/2005 8:15:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [steelshadows] two things
> > >
> > > Michael-
> > >
> > > Some of us would appriciate it if you would cease your inflammatory
and
> > > non-constructive comments. If you want to be bitter, there are other
> > e-mail
> > > lists with which you may vent your anger. Some of us are not
subscribed
> to
> > > that list because we don't want to read it.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Anthony C. [name redacted at Anthonys request]
> > > US2003021263
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Shaffer" <pelantan@...>
> > > To: <steelshadows@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:11 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [steelshadows] two things
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you. So the RST is admitting that he has it in for
Pittsburgh.
> I
> > > > hope the RC is paying attention to this as he was the one who said
> > > > otherwise.
> > > >
> > > > Michael Shaffer
> > > > US2003082207
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > From: Kris Borer <felixplaz@...>
> > > > > To: <steelshadows@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Date: 8/26/2005 6:52:53 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [steelshadows] two things
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm assuming that he is refering to the election
> > > > > > that will be held _after_
> > > > > > Jason's 6 month suspention is up. So... show me
> > > > > > the rules that back this
> > > > > > up please.
> > > > >
> > > > > Membership Handbook:
> > > > >
> > > > > "After the application deadline, the officer
> > > > > administering the election reviews the applications.
> > > > > The officer may remove any applications that are
> > > > > inappropriate. Legitimate reasons for removal of an
> > > > > applicant include past disciplinary actions..."
> > > > >
> > > > > Kris Borer, DC, US2002106794
> > > > > ****************************
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